First of all, I have a love/hate relationship with all the airlines including Southwest (SWA) and American (AA) so I’m not picking on them. I will also probably still book flights on AA since I have top tier elite status with them so getting free upgrades and free checked bags is worth the risk. But for those who don’t have elite status and aren’t flexible with travel plans, then you probably shouldn’t book Southwest or American Airlines this holiday season.

Here’s why. According to Politico, “Unions representing pilots at Southwest Airlines and American Airlines, both based in Texas, are asking for exemptions to President Joe Biden’s pending vaccine mandate, with one of those unions warning that holiday travel could be disrupted if they have to comply.”

American’s pilot union, (APA) said, “some of its members were concerned about compliance because of documented medical reasons as well as ‘the potential for career-ending side effects’ from the vaccine, citing stringent FAA medical tests pilots must pass in order to maintain their commercial pilots license.”

Well, it looks like Southwest pilots are already starting to play games because this weekend, Southwest has cancelled almost 2,000 flights, per FlightAware.com (808 on Saturday and 1007 so far today).


Southwest tweeted out a statement: “ATC issues and disruptive weather have resulted in a high volume of cancellations throughout the weekend while we work to recover our operation. We appreciate your patience as we accommodate affected Customers, and Customer Service wait times are longer than usual. If your travel was affected, please explore self-service rebooking options by checking your flight status on http://southwest.com.”

And according to a press release on Southwest’s pilot union’s website: “SWAPA is aware of operational difficulties affecting Southwest Airlines today due to a number of issues, but we can say with confidence that our Pilots are not participating in any official or unofficial job actions. Our Pilots will continue to overcome SWA management’s poor planning, as well as any external operational challenges, and remain the most productive Pilots in the world. They will continue to be focused on their highest priority — safety. SWAPA Pilots are true professionals and will always maintain the highest level of responsibility to their crews, their passengers, and our airline.”

However, according to Pete Muntean, a correspondent for CNN covering aviation and transportation as well as a pilot and flight instructor: “FAA insists there are NOT air traffic control issues causing Southwest cancellations. “Due to aircraft and crews being out of place, some airlines continue to experience scheduling challenges. No FAA air traffic staffing shortages have been reported since Friday.”

So, who do you believe? It’s the second straight day of major issues with Southwest and is it a coincidence they’re doing it over a long holiday weekend? It could be. But I think it’s also possible that their pilots are telling executives that this is a precursor to Thanksgiving and Christmas unless they back down.

Why did Southwest cancel so many flights?

Scott’s Cheap Flights has an excellent post about why SWA canceled so many flights. “Southwest has given a number of reasons for the meltdown, ranging from weather and air traffic control issues, but the main culprit seems to be lingering staffing shortages caused by the ongoing pandemic. Additionally, the nature of Southwest’s point-to-point network makes getting back on track difficult. A few delayed or canceled flights can have a great effect on subsequently scheduled flights.”

David M. Rowell who has an excellent newsletter writes, “What was it? The people saying it was nothing to do with a vaccine dispute said “The pilot union said it is nothing to do with a vaccine dispute” but the thing is, the union, by law, is not allowed to organize such unofficial strikes, and so would disclaim responsibility, no matter what the truth was. One thing was clear. The pilots were reporting in sick or “fatigued” – a vague term that can refer to mental fatigue as well as physical fatigue, but the bigger problem seemed to be the airline’s inability to adjust and optimize the crew it had and where they and planes were.”

I have heard from pilot friends that it was no doubt a combination of everything including the pilots calling in sick.

If you’re flying Southwest tomorrow or the next day, there’s no doubt there will be plenty more delays and cancelations  as well since it will take SWA days, if not weeks, to recover their operations. Here’s my advice for when your flight is delayed or canceled.

This really sucks if you’re a customer because with flights being so full, it’s difficult to get put on another one. This is why I’ve been advising for months not to be late to the airport because if you miss your flight, there aren’t a lot of options for airlines to get you out on.

If you look at Southwest’s Twitter handle, it’s just full of replies to really pissed off customers. You don’t want to be one of them.

Fortunately, American’s pilots haven’t started using hardball tactics but I don’t think they really need to; all they have to do is say, “look at what happened over at Southwest Airlines this weekend.”

105 Comments On "Why You Shouldn’t Book Southwest or American Airlines This Holiday Season"
  1. Matthew Sabo|

    Having worked for Southwest as a Ramp Supervisor in BWI (Baltimore) I can speak firsthand to blatant disregard for safety practices, both for employees, and for passengers and equipment. It doesn’t surprise me that Southwest is choosing to go the path it has, considering they run their employees, both ramp agents, supervisors and managers into the ground with ‘mandatory overtime’ and other ridiculous working conditions. It’s no wonder why places like BWI and similar stations are revolving doors for employees. They (Southwest) lure people in under the guise of how awesome they are to work for, and then rape their employees like a prison gang bang. It wouldn’t surprise me if this was done on purpose to keep overhead low, and retirement/pension down, because nobody can stomach sticking around for more than a few years to work for them. On the surface, they’re all happy and smiles with singing flight attendants and cute commercials. But beneath the surface, they are a wretched, cruel and absolutely miserable employer to work for, think Ebeneezer Scrouge on meth.

  2. Kathryn Tracy|

    Johnny, generally love your info! Since the pandemic onset, your postings seem to reflect an air speed acceleration into conspiracy theories. Perhaps a non-partisan independent editor would help by objectively critical-thinking your rhetorical postings and maintain balance. QAnon has enough conspiracy theories w/o adding fire to the out-of-control speculation flames. And some passengers may actually be able to figure out what’s best for their travel plans w/o being scolded, nannied or bullied.

  3. Elliott W|

    Some people are small people.

  4. Elliott W|

    I am not an airline pilot, but let’s pretend I have a best friend who is a SW Pilot, Call him Capt. Jim, and he asks, “Hey Elliott, I understand you’ve had Covid-19 and the Johnson and Johnson Vaccine, do you think there are any side effects I should be concerned about?” I would tell him, “Well during the first week I had typical symptoms, tired and hard to concentrate, but in a couple of weeks I was okay…..then about a month later it was like my ear exploded. I had extreme vertigo, I walked a straight line like a drunk. Then came the Tinnitus, high pitched tone, pulsating, and loud snapping. This has gone on for the last 8-months. Don’t you guys have to take a physical? Who’s going to fly with a pilot who becomes known as, “Capt Jim’s Drunken Dream.””

    “But, hey don’t believe me, Capt. Jim, do your own research, Google, “tinnitus vertigo covid-19.” Could Covid-19 or the Vaccine result in a pilot ending his career? I’d guess only about 15% of the time. Well Pilot, Do you feel lucky?”

  5. Eagle|

    It is so sad, how selfish some Americans have become. Me, me, me, me….

  6. Elliott W|

    Johnny,
    I’ve heard you and Leo Laporte many times talking about the Covid-19 and the vaccine and there is little room between you and Leo and your opinions. I am not an airline pilot, but let’s pretend I have a best friend who is a SW Pilot, Call him Capt. Jim, and he asks, “Hey Elliott, I understand you’ve had Covid-19 and the Johnson and Johnson Vaccine, do you think there are any side effects I should be concerned about?” I would tell him, “Well during the first week I had typical symptoms, tired and hard to concentrate, but in a couple of weeks I was okay…..then about a month later it was like my ear exploded. I had extreme vertigo, I walked a straight line like a drunk. Then came the Tinnitus, high pitched tone, pulsating, and loud snapping. This has gone on for the last 8-months. Don’t you guys have to take a physical? Who’s going to fly with a pilot who becomes known as, “Capt Jim’s Drunken Dream.””

    “But, hey don’t believe me, Capt. Jim, do your own research, Google, “tinnitus vertigo covid-19.” Could Covid-19 or the Vaccine result in a pilot ending his career? I’d guess only about 15% of the time. Well Pilot, Do you feel lucky?”

  7. Steve|

    All of the first grade name calling on these posts, no one citing sources for either side of the argument, thanks for not furthering the quality of the discussion.

  8. TheBald Eagle|

    DH you are an idiot!

  9. LJ Deans|

    CDC website has ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE?!?! I’m guessing it’s the poison being injected into unsuspecting humans that are being brainwashed. It’s MY BODY, MY C-H-O-I-C-E!

  10. DH|

    And yet you succumb to loving an autocratic, corrupt criminal who managed to scam his way into office while supplicating himself and his office to a leader named “Putin” (who worked previously as a KGB foreign intelligence officer for a Communist Regime). Further, your “dear leader”, Donald was in love with another communist leader, Kim Jong-Un. But, you call the Democratic Party “communists”? Get your facts straight. The Democratic Party favors such socialist programs like Social Security, Medicare and Disability. How much would I be willing to bet that you are enjoying those programs either now or you will be, in the future!

  11. Alex|

    I am a major airline captain and unvaccinated. Not because I’m anti vax but because my airline has not negotiated loss of license benefits for covid side effects that can disqualify you from flying. Some of us are faced with a tough career decision that I hope none of you have to face. Funny how we have been working through covid before any vaccine was available in the name of “national security” and now some of you call us domestic terrorist. Words matter right.

  12. Jerry Mandel|

    Anti-vaccers spreading lies. Over 700,000 dead in USA is reality. At least, the pandemic gives an idea of something not shown in the 2020 census—how many immature people there are.

  13. Tricia|

    Freedom of choice over ones body. I am not anti vax but I am American and what’s next? We gonna break into Amish community’s and make them get it? I know it’s not apples to apples but it’s our right to get it or not get it. Just as it’s our right to buy a big greasy pizza and kill our selves that way instead of cooking fresh vegetables.

  14. Peter|

    Interesting that the two airlines named, are the only two major airlines whose pilot unions are independent, and not part of the greater AFLCIO, whose union dues and official public endorsements go automatically to the Democrat Party candidate. This during a Democrat controlled regime. Is this pure coincidence?

  15. Patrick|

    Good for those pilots that stood up to the communist actions of our government ! This is America and we the people should not be forced to be vaccinated. All this pandemic is Bullshit, the dems trying to keep us under their thumbs so they can cheat again by using mail in ballots. God bless those who stand up to the socialist agenda.!!!!

  16. MATT LAFRAMBOISE|

    My apologies to everyone. I have been arrogant, demeaning, factually incorrect, and overall a complete jackass in my posts. I just checked and it turns out that the so called vaccines are not now and never were intended to stop the transmission of COVID. Therefore, a mandate to get the vaccine makes no sense whatsoever. Again I apologize for being the biggest left wing hack cock sucking piece of shit in the world.

  17. sheila oconnell|

    I stand with the pilots. We are all grounded now. Like the propaganda says we are all in this together. What a disgrace this mandate is. I will take my chances with a virus that has has 99 percent survival rate than a plane crash that kills everyone.. these vaccines are garbage and the side effects are terrible. Hold the line fighter pilots.

  18. Robert Gillchrest|

    Since SWA doesn’t have cooperative agreements with any other airline, you either fly them or wait until they rebook you. The other airlines have cooperative booking agreement which means you can be rebooked on them and get credit for your unused ticket.
    Take you chances if you’re flying SWA and trying to save money.

  19. Anonymous|

    Americans are really a bunch of whiners. Wah we have to wear masks, wah we have to get a vaccine to help us end a GLOBAL pandemic. Global meaning this is affecting the entire world not just the United States. The whole world is getting these vaccines. Some ppl in less wealthy countries have to beg for our leftovers while we have to bribe & beg our citizens to take it. It’s really a disgrace people made public health political. I pray for this nation of self centered fools.

    1. Paul|

      Yes Rubber Stamp. Your right. And those Boston Tea party bunch. Same to you.

  20. Com|

    I stand behind those workers and anyone else facing these mandates.

    1. Matt LaFramboise|

      That’s why you’re stupid F

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